[Rack] Lock Wiki Page

Andy Isaacson adi at hexapodia.org
Mon Apr 7 12:26:43 UTC 2014


On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 12:08:13PM +0000, Johny Radio wrote:
> >Second, I fucking copy and pasted the log message showing that I left
> >the page in exactly the state you left it in. While you were reading,
> >your troll came along and edited at around 00:56. Sometimes I'm
> >incompetent and sometimes I make a mistake, but in this case it's
> >pretty
> >annoying of you to displace responsibility and incorrectly accuse me of
> >incompetence.
> 
> I'm looking at the page at this moment, 4:50 am san francisco time.

Yes, the history page is also US/Pacific:
https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=NoiseHack&action=history

> On the page is the text:
> 
> -JOHNY RADIO TO BRING OR ARRANGE TO BRING PIZZA AND BEER?

Yes, I was reading mediawiki docs for about 15 minutes during which your
delightful troll edited the page, at 04:36.

Then I hit "semiprotect" at 04:41.  I could have gone and re-read the
history, but I didn't bother.  Good timing on the troll's part.

Then you loaded the page 10 minutes later, didn't read the history, and
subtly accuse me of being your troll.  Smooth move, dude.

> (does the above stat indicate that ip address has made 70 edits to
> the wiki? Maybe time to ban it?)

No, the +70 is the number of characters added to the page.  Click on the
IP to see their edit history.

> >You might want to experiment with more sophisticated wiki
> >formatting techniques, the <center> and indent-for-monospace formatting
> >feels pretty Geocities, and the ALLCAPS for random EMPHASIS is
> >obnoxious.
> 
> I'm not really looking for formatting tips here, thanks. The page
> delivers the information.

If you just want to deliver the information, stick to the basic wiki
formatting.  You're specifically chosing to have your page look like a
90s-ransom-note webpage.

> >Another thing -- if you want to discard a bunch of edits, just go back
> >to the page version you want in History, click on the timestamp to
> >visit
> >the "old page", then click "edit", then click "save" on the resulting
> >page. Your current technique of using the "undo" link for every edit is
> >super annoying.
> 
> All these clicks you're recommending are super-annoying. Wikimedia
> provides an "undo" link, so i shall use it. It does the job.

I see, you only had one "undo" in the long list of small edits around
02:00 - 02:30... I misread that to be a sequence of undos.  No worries
then.

> any idea why a new account cannot edit it, but an old one can? And

I haven't found a clear explanation, but I think new accounts are
counted as 'unregistered' for 30 days or something like that.

> if new accounts cannot edit it, then would that not stop new troll
> accounts?

Trolls tend to play a long game; we have many thousands of unused
accounts on our wiki.

> Do you happen to recall if you set it to semiprotected before or
> after the above-mentioned 4:36 troll?

It's in the history page, please read.
https://noisebridge.net/index.php?title=NoiseHack&action=history

> Does the wiki disallow hushmail and other temp email hosts for new
> accounts? If not, might that be a good idea?

Nope, that's definitely not under consideration.

-andy



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