[tor] Approaching ISPs

Ben Kochie superq at gmail.com
Mon Jan 23 20:02:08 UTC 2017


What we really would like is to buy bandwidth in a new colo facility we're
moving to.  If Monkey Brains has cross-connects into Equinix, we'd love to
talk.

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Cooper Quintin <cooperq at eff.org> wrote:

> Let me reccomend Monkey Brains as an ISP that might be willing to host
> an exit node as well.
>
> On 01/23/2017 11:00 AM, mark burdett wrote:
> > There are some tor exit nodes running on Hurricane Electric, operated by
> > three different people (one of whom works at Naval Research Lab),
> > according to https://torstatus.blutmagie.de/
> >
> > I guess this makes Hurricane less ideal than another ISP with no nodes.
> >
> > No details at
> > https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs
> > https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/ISPCorrespondence
> > except mention of "cheap he.net <http://he.net> bandwidth" in a note
> > about another ISP
> >
> > --mark B.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Patrick O'Doherty <p at trickod.com
> > <mailto:p at trickod.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     A very quick search across the archive shows few results for HE
> >     specifically.
> >
> >     The most promising is from 2013 with someone claiming that "My colo
> >     provider Hurricane Electric understands Tor"
> >     https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2013-
> March/001956.html
> >     <https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2013-
> March/001956.html>
> >     which doesn't seem to be the case in our situation.
> >
> >     Patrick O'Doherty:
> >     > This might be an interesting thread to cc the tor-relays list
> >     about. I'd
> >     > search for HE in the archives first though.
> >     >
> >     > The HE policies in question for others to view
> >     >  * TOS https://he.net/tos.html
> >     >  * AUP https://he.net/aup.html
> >     >
> >     > Things like AUP section 2.2 "No customer shall do anything that
> could
> >     > get any portion of Hurricane Electric's IP space ... put on
> >     blacklists"
> >     > are things we can't possibly comply with given the nature of the
> Exit.
> >     >
> >     > Ben Kochie:
> >     >> Patrick and I approached HE about running an exit via their
> >     network.  We
> >     >> were up front and honest.
> >     >>
> >     >> They came back with a non-answer reply of "Have you read our
> terms of
> >     >> service?"
> >     >>
> >     >> Of course we can't promise anything, and given the overly broad
> >     terms, HE
> >     >> is not an option.
> >     >>
> >     >> How have we approached vendors in the past?
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >     >>
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