[ml] Change of formats for ML group

[deleTed]

Good point point, John.
I think for ML at Noisebridge to be successful we've got to have both camps
going strong, because without camp 2 nothing would get done and we'd have no
bragging rights, but without camp 1, camp 2 could start to feel a little too
much like Work.

Can anyone recommend a good intro text?

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:39 PM, John J. Kaufman <binky at onemain.com> wrote:

> So, there seems to be (at least) two kinds of people interested in the
> group:
>
> 1. People who just want to learn/talk about ML stuff
> 2. People who want to work on ML projects
>
> I'm firmly in the first camp (though I do think some coding can help the
> learning process), and I think it is a necessary step for people to go
> through before they get to the second group (after which they burn out and
> move back to camp 1 and start oscillating forever more).
>
> I think if we can find an undergrad level text on ML, it would give
> something for Camp 1s to do, either singly or with others... and the Camp 2
> project folks can be there hacking and recruiting.
>
> -John J. Kaufman
> (aka Fritz, depending on context)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Josh Myer <josh at joshisanerd.com>
> >Sent: Sep 2, 2009 7:19 PM
> >To: ml at lists.noisebridge.net
> >Subject: [ml] Change of formats for ML group
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I'm your friendly ML Wednesday Host/Mad Hatter.  As such, I'm getting
> >ready to declare "Let's all move one place on", and wanted to bring
> >everybody up to speed and see how that goes.
> >
> >In the past, we've done a lot of lectures at ML Wednesday; those went
> >okay, but they weren't always so popular.  In particular, not everyone
> >could follow every lecture, so attendance was kind of churning: people
> >would come for a week or three, then drop out for a month.
> >
> >To try and keep people engaged, we did some more workshop-like things,
> >which went really really well (neural networks), but were hard to keep
> >going.  It was especially hard to keep the whole group on the same
> >page--it required too many blocking steps to resync everyone to the
> >same stage of progress.
> >
> >More recently, we've had just a single project going, which has
> >basically killed attendance (but damn they've been fun).  It's been
> >fun, but we went from a high attendance of 15 people down to tonight
> >being probably just Ted and I.
> >
> >So, I'd like to try changing things up again.  Sensebridge, the cyborg
> >group, has had really good luck with lots of smaller projects going on
> >concurrently.  They just get together to hack, and occasionally give
> >presentations, etc.  This seems like it could be a good model for us
> >now, given that we have more people with more experience using
> >techniques and tools.  I'd love to see some people play with Mario AI,
> >while others work on the WiiMote project, etc, all with other people
> >around to ask questions or offer support.
> >
> >To do this, we need two things: project ideas and a bit of
> >focus/dedication to making it happen regularly.  I believe we can pull
> >this off, but it requires a bit more work from people than we've had
> >in the past.
> >
> >So, who's got project ideas?  Who wants to work on what kinds of
> >problems?  If you've got one, start a new thread on this list, and
> >hopefully we'll be able to build up resources (techniques, libraries,
> >and people) to see which projects we can get going.
> >
> >Let's move one place on!
> >--
> >Josh Myer   650.248.3796
> >  josh at joshisanerd.com
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