[Noisebridge-discuss] 2169 Mission status

[Mitch Altman]

I also have concerns about budget.  At the moment we do not have enough money in the bank to go forward with a move to 2169 Mission that includes the required build-up.  We will need to do some fund-raising.  How much fund-raising depends on a budget.  If a few people can get together and create a realistic (as best as possible) budget, then we can raise the required funds.

 

 

At the moment we have $21,000 in the bank.

 

 

Any fund-raising will need to keep in mind that we need to have 3 months of operating expenses in the bank.  Currently (at 83C Wiese, with $1975/mo rent) our operating expenses have averaged $3900/month.

 

 

Mitch.

 

 

 

 

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> From: matt at peterson.org
> To: adi at hexapodia.org
> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:41:07 -0700
> CC: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] 2169 Mission status
> 
> Ok, my big concern is the budget. I hate to come across as the party 
> pooper here. It's well known that house remodels and upgrades run 
> over budget, particularly for newbies in this realm - I could only 
> imagine commercial refurbs requiring even more knowledge. Do we have 
> members or friends with intimate knowledge of the permitting process, 
> contractor negotiation, parts sourcing, etc (ideally ones willing to 
> step up and lead this)? Sai had valid points in this realm at the 
> last meeting, however the overall excitement overruled him repeatedly 
> from diving into this.
> 
> I plan to block unless a detailed budget is published and agreed 
> upon. Our treasurer should be presenting data that shows our / 
> existing/ membership base allows us to afford this space for some time 
> PLUS additional surplus from the recent fundraising round. Let's get 
> actual quotes from contractors. Hand waving and "just trust us" isn't 
> going to fly.
> 
> In terms of the funds earmarked for the new space, to what extent do 
> we limit purchases and upgrades? I see the most critical items being: 
> bathroom(s)/shower, electrical, walls, kitchen and other common shared 
> infrastructure. These are meant to meet ADA, building code 
> worthiness, general safety and comfort requirements. What happens 
> when funds are spent, on say on a meat-only storage freezer, color 
> photo processing equipment or an industrial CNC machines (all 
> hypothetical examples) - yielding gear that isn't "new space" 
> specific; are funders Ok with these type of purchases?
> 
> Again, not trying to come off as the nay-sayer here but we're flying 
> blind from what I can gather currently. I'm very excited about the 
> new space itself, the breathing room we'll have and fun network 
> upgrades that will follow. Let's just be up front and realistic about 
> the costs.
> 
> --Matt
> 
> On Jul 19, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Andy Isaacson wrote:
> >
> > The landlords apparently aren't interested in doing any work up-front,
> > so we'd be doing any work on our own dime and on our own time. We
> > requested that they replace the smaller (front) bathroom with a larger
> > bathroom (leaving the current rear bathroom in its current state) and
> > they declined.
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