[Noisebridge-discuss] History

aestetix aestetix aestetix at gmail.com
Thu Sep 23 21:31:33 UTC 2010


I was thinking the same thing when I saw all this planning go on.

To that end, I also have to recommend "What the Dormouse Said", a kind of
history of counter-culture and technology in the 1960s. It covers that, as
well as Engelbart's work, and much more.


On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:21 PM, lee worden <wonder at riseup.net> wrote:

> I wonder whether Moxie is thinking of the Whole Earth Catalog Demise Party
> of 1971:
>
> http://www.wholeearth.com/issue/1180/article/321/history.-.demise.party.etc
>   A non-stop non-score volleyball game competed for loudest activity with
>   balloons full of inhalable laughing gas.  And then at midnight Scott
>   Beach announced from the stage that these here two hundred $100 dollar
>   bills, yes, $20,000, were now the property of the party-goers. Just as
>   soon as they could decide what to do with them.
>
>   "Flush them down the toilet!" "No, don't!" "Give it to the Indians!"
>   "Bangladesh!" "Our commune needs a pump or we'll all get hepatitis!" And
>   so on. The debate lasted till 9 a.m. the next morning, when a dozen
>   remaining hardcore turned the remaining $15,000 ($5,000 had been
>   distributed to the crowd at one wild point) over to Fred Moore,
>   dishwasher.
>
> Fred Turner's excellent book traces the outcome:
>
> http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/817415_chap4.html
>   In the summer of 1971, Felsenstein joined Resource One, a gathering of
>   former staffers from a volunteer switchboard and computer programmers
>   who had left the University of California at Berkeley in protest of the
>   invasion of Cambodia; Resource One was also a project partly funded by
>   several thousand dollars Fred Moore had taken home from the Catalog's
>   Demise Party. At Resource One, Felsenstein and others sought to
>   establish public computing terminals at several locations in the Bay
>   area, with an eye toward creating a peer-to-peer information exchange.
>
> ps. Welcome back, Moxie!
>
>
> On Sun, 12 Sep 2010, Moxie Marlinspike wrote:
> > Cc: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] noisebridge's birthday!
> >
> >
> >
> > On 09/12/2010 01:02 AM, Jonathan Lassoff wrote:
> >> Moxie, this sounds like a blast!
> >>
> >> A couple complications spring to mind:
> >>
> >>  - Noisebridge charging money to get in. I would think that some
> >> people would object to having to pay to get in. Perhaps if there was a
> >> separate, cordoned-off area, people could enjoy the space while paid
> >> attendees can still be differentiated.
> >
> > I think this is easy enough to handle.  Since participants would need
> > some kind of "voting" tool (colored cards or something else), we could
> > just have people pay for that without requiring paid access to the
> > entire space.
> >
> > Still, I'm thinking that this event would "take over" the space in other
> > ways.  Since it potentially gets more interesting with the more money
> > you collect, I would want to promote the fuck out of the event in order
> > to get a lot of folks there.  I'm imagining a
> > push-the-furniture-out-of-the-way party environment with music playing
> > over a bustling crowd.  Noisebridge could even sell drinks or something
> > as a fundraiser for the space.
> >
> >>  - Would the purchase(s) be made immediately? I would think that it
> >> could be difficult to rent a bouncyhouse, band, clowns, etc. on short
> >> notice.
> >
> > I think it depends on the purchase.  Some purchases could be made
> > immediately, others would have to be delayed.  Proposals would have to
> > include details on things like (for instance) where the purchased
> > bouncycastle would be stored, who could use it at what time, etc.  Folks
> > in London did a similar kind of experiment once and actually ended up
> > purchasing a really small parcel of land outside of town, for which
> > everyone who was in attendance is now like 1/200th owner of and can do
> > whatever they want on.
> >
> > - moxie
> >
> >
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