[Noisebridge-discuss] Member shelf security

Ever Falling everfalling at gmail.com
Tue Oct 23 02:43:14 UTC 2012


or we could aim a webcam at the shelves and the entrance to the space so we
could easily see someone walking out with an entire rubbermade container.
But of course /that/ will never happen. BTW how are we on tin foil? should
we go get some more just in case? :P

On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:

> People already have the option of putting stuff in containers, if it fits.
> People already have the option of putting locks on those containers, if
> they want to be assed with constantly locking and unlocking their cubbie
> every time they want to access a thing they are hacking on, or to get
> another part.
>
> also, putting a lock on something marks it as valuable.  Maybe the theif
> will simply take the whole cubbie.  That would suck.  But they took the
> donation bin because they couldn't open it.
>
> I think what we need is improved security at noisebridge.  We are looking
> into RFID tags but we should also do fun things to catch theives, like
> booby-trapped goodies on the member shelves.
>
> If I am in the member shelves and I pick up an interesting item on someone
> else's shelf, and suddenly a siren and a flashing light goes off, and
> everyone comes to see what it was, and i'm trapped in the member shelves,
> i'll have to admit that i regularly look through other peoples stuff to see
> what they're hacking on (but not to take anything without permission)
>
> if Joe Speedfreak from the mission is back there and the alarms go off,
> people will probably decide he has to leave and not let him in again.
> He doesn't even have a reason to be back there.
>
> We should also improve the wall at the end of the hacker alley, so that
> there is a more clearly defined line between general noisebridge and the
> proprietary member shelves.  For example, Harvey has some stuff on the
> floor next to the sewing machines, so we should build a shelf there so that
> he and Dan can store their stuff in a more conventional way.
>
> And also, there is a lot of stuff back there that belongs to nobody, and
> is taking up a lot of space, and we should figure out how to reduce it.
>
> -jake
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Robert Atkins <ratkins at fastmail.fm>
> wrote:
>
>  I'm not a member. If I were visiting San Francisco for more than a couple
>> of months I would be. I think what you're all doing (and the principles
>> behind the way you're doing it) is excellent. You're all awesome.
>> Unsolicited observations follow.
>>
>> I would intuit that if the member shelves were populated with lidded
>> totes, the stuff in the totes would be dicked with rarely if at all. I
>> would say they wouldn't even need to be locked. In that kind of place, the
>> "affordance" of stuff being in a closed box would keep honest people honest
>> and anyone who was truly an asshole thief would defeat any trivial security
>> measure (like a lock) anyhow.
>>
>> The best part about this is, if you want your stuff on the member shelves
>> to be more secure, buy a tote with a lid and put your stuff in there! If
>> you don't care, don't. Radical self reliance FTW!
>>
>> Cheers, Robert.
>>
>
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