[Noisebridge-discuss] oogles at noisebridge

[rachel lyra hospodar]

This is scud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LSp3Axbjq8

Found by searching 'occupy san francisco scud'

An image search is also very fruitful.

R.
On May 29, 2013 2:07 PM, "Liz Henry" <lizhenry at gmail.com> wrote:

> I haven't been around in the past month because of health issues, but am
> feeling a bit worried as Jake says about the atmosphere at NB.  I want to
> work to keep the space for people to work on stuff, for learning and making
> and teaching, not as a place to be off the streets and hang out.
>
> From what I have heard, telling someone you are about to take their photo
> works fairly well, if you have to ask someone to leave.  And from when I
> have tried it, with the more anti-social of  people, it is very time
> consuming.    I'm hoping that we can go through a real spring cleaning,
> change how we have door access set up, and make the space more safe for
> hackers, hacking, and projects.
>
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> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
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>> No i didnt get any pictures, because when i thought of it (after they
>> were dragging their feet despite me and mitch BOTH being really heavy about
>> them leaving) I said "i am going to take a picture now for our records and
>> they ACTUALLY left immediately then, so i didn't get one.
>>
>> But i did get a picture of Vince, who was an extreme problem a couple of
>> times and yet barely got mentioned on the discuss list as "vince was asked
>> to leave".  I was disappointed that none of the ten people arguing him out
>> the door for 20 minutes was willing to write anything up about it.
>>
>> I would like to think that scud and chrissy got the message and won't
>> come back, although i'm sure the cashbox is very tempting to a lot of
>> people. Certainly if i see them in the space again I will tell them that
>> they need to leave "immediately or i'm calling the police" and I will tell
>> them that if they come in again, i "will call the police before even
>> warning you" so that should be enough.
>>
>> I agree that it's tiring the way noisebridge has decayed socially.  I
>> blame a lack of willingness on the part of most noisebridge "leadership" to
>> take the problem seriously, in favor of an overappreciation of chaos.
>>
>> I attribute this divide to lack of understanding by software people
>> (those who mostly use their laptops and rarely use other tools) of the very
>> real and crippling effects of entropy of the space by non-hackers.
>>  Software people can clear off a space on a table and open their laptop and
>> get to work.  The chaos around them is ambiance, and they don't know how
>> many of the tools are missing or destroyed, or how many of the soldering
>> irons are actually usable.  They don't see how many of the multimeters
>> actually work, and they don't understand that people can't leave projects
>> on their member shelves overnight because they get prowled regularly for
>> crack money.
>>
>> As for Scud and Chrissy i think they were doing what was good for them -
>> getting as much as they could from noisebridge before they were cut off. I
>> guess I would do the same thing if i were them.  Their choice.
>>
>> The complaint I have is with people who are in a position to improve
>> noisebridge, for example by embracing a new era of access control, but are
>> not willing to do it because they don't see a problem.
>>
>> -jake
>>
>> On Wed, 29 May 2013, (      ) wrote:
>>
>>  Hey, did you get any pictures of Scud and Chrissy when they were asked to
>>> leave, so we can post them on the 86 page?
>>>
>>> I like the idea of NB so much and to have something in the city, but the
>>> constant stream of Oogles / "Occupy" there is really wearing on me!
>>>
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